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Deep Kissing on the lips and Risk of HIV Transmission (Worried)

Question: 

Hello,
8 months ago (Feb 2018), a girl deep kissed me on the lips. She was wearing a lip stick. After the kiss, all the lipstick were gone. There was no visible blood during the kiss. 2 or 3 days later I developed a mild sore throat with a deep red tongue. I also recall experiencing burning urine that lasted for two days with no discharge. The following day, I woke up with an insect (not sure if it was a tick) burrowed in my left hand. I pulled it out and it left a deep small pin like circle around my hand that took days to disappear. Later that day, I realized I could not move my left arm, left leg and had a mild facial numbness, burning and tingling on my left face and I could not smile properly. After that, my nails started pitting, palms of my hands and soles of my feet started peeling and crusting. After that episode had passed, my knees and elbows started scaling and itching and these lasted until early May this year. I kept asking my uncle if these were winter rashes and he said yes (but I still could not believe that the cold from the winter can cause nail pitting).I went to the doctor around that very first month of the kiss and they said that my blood work was normal (it was the CBC that they had performed). Also, in that very month of February ( even before she gave me the kiss), we discussed how we came to Canada and so we talked about medical testings and requirements that led me to ask the girl whether she had been diagnosed with HIV or any other infectious disease prior to coming to Canada. She said she had strep throat, scarlet fever, straw berry tongue ( things related to streptococcal infection in the first year she came to Canada). She denied having HIV infection. I also told her I was tested for HIV prior to coming to Canada and I was tested negative and my medical records were in order.So, looking back to the signs and symptoms that kept bothering after the kiss and after the insect bite, I thought that perhaps I was also infected with group A strep only to realized that Group A strep doesn't cause most of the symptoms I kept having. At the end of April I got a job an an institution as a cleaner (cleaning toilets with commercial cleaning chemicals and glasses with windex). 3 weeks into my job I realised my body started itching so badly, mostly at night and the rashes that I sustained were in my groin area, back of my neck and upper back with almost none on my chest. The rashes scarred and were highly pruitic. ( One of the cleaning chemicals had poured on my bed sheets the night before and I just went and slept on it due to a long day from work). On the 5th week of my work, I woke up again with the similar insect biting my hand and after that my left face remained swollen. I started waking up with itchy nose and reddened eyes especially on my left eye where my face was swollen. The NP who I saw gave me topical steriodal nasal spray which helped the situation in my nose a bit and has not fully healed up to now. Also, when I was working as a cleaner I always turned the heater on even though I realized that my room was prickly hot.
Also I started developing minor non itchy scaling at the proximal joints of my fingers and feet. I also experience mild joint pain now. I have lost 1 Kg over the past 8 months thinking about all these symptoms I am having which had never happened to me before. All sources have including previous posts on the Vancouver AIDs website clearly show that HIV can't be transmitted through kissing but I am very worried as the symptoms I experienced maybe the first presentation of HIV infection (given that In did not contract lyme disease from the tick bite).
I am a virgin, 26 years old pursuing my master's degree and I wouldn't want a kiss to mark the end of my life.
In september this year, I asked that girl again several times if she has HIV, she continuously kept saying she is not HIV positive and that I should go see a counselor. Last Thursday (October 4th I decided with my NP to test for all the diseases that can be transmitted through kissing, including HIV whose results have not come back yet. I am scared to go see my HIV results this coming week and I feel absolutely hopeless).
In the month of August I had already done tests for :
Hep A, B, C, chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Urology, Stool, CBC, VZV, MEV, RUBELLA, MUMPS which all came back negative. I tested positive for H. Pylori which I have currently finished taking antibiotics for.
My nose still itches especially in the morning, the itchy skin rash did not go away fully and it gets worse at night, after a hot shower and I can barely bundle up my clothes even though the waether is getting cold :(.
My question for you is, do you think a deep kiss on the lips at school can transmit HIV from that girl to my blood stream ? Do you think I am infected with HIV from the kissing? Or do you think I may have come down with the Boreilla species ?
Thank you for your time and advise.
Sincerely,
E. (Updated Question)

Answer: 

Hello,

Thank you for your inquiry. From what we gather from the question, you were asking about the risk of acquiring HIV through deep kissing. From the information given, this scenario is determined to be No Risk (transmission of HIV is not possible in the given scenario).

Kissing (with no blood present) presents no risk for transmission of HIV (1). Refer to our Transmission Equation for more information on transmission methods.

Please consider that it is nearly impossible to attribute any/all of your symptoms to HIV without the confirmation of an HIV test.

Recommendation: No need for HIV test with the scenario provided, refer to a physician for other health related questions.

Best, AIDS Vancouver Helpline/Online, Cody