The first week of December I had a very intense male on male frottage encounter. The other male only wanted platonic relations and said he was a virgin. He also (said) he got tested with his doctor for all STD 30 days after our encounter. We mostly just cuddled, but there were about 30 minutes of naked horizontal grinding with our penises against each other's bodies. The other male had precum and cum on him which rubbed against and at one period the grinding hurt my penis for a bit, however there was not chaffing or torn skin.
I'm wondering if the period of grinding could have pushed some of the precum into my urethra as an exposure? 10 days later, i had what felt like kidney infection symptoms including slight tingling burning sensation while urinating. I saw a doctor 20 days after the experience because i began to have dizziness and painful lymph nodes in my groin, arm pits, shoulder blades, neck, and behind my jaw. The doctor only took blood and urine for a standard lab but said my urine was clear of bacteria. I dont think they tested for any sti specifically. The doc did say i was slightly anemic, had high creatinine levels, and red blood cells and protein in my urine as well as high uric acid in my blood. I also developed a low fever, nausea, weakness, malaise, and pain in my abdomin off and on from day 30 until day 51. I've had numbness in my fingers and tingling and slight pain in my fingers and toes from about day 18 to today. I had night sweats on day 41. I tested myself using autotest vih ( 2nd gen) on day 30 and 40. Both tests came back negative. I dont believe my risk was high at all, but I do believe it was not zero. Did I have a risk? If I had symptoms but not serious symptoms until day 41, would a 3rd gen test be useless? I took a 3rd gen blood drop test on day 55 which came back negative. I'm worried because of specific historic studies of HIVAN which corresponded with vastly delayed seroconversion and positive testing.
Hi there, 

Thank you for your inquiry. From what we gather from the question, you were asking about the possibility of HIV transmission in the event that you had engaged in frottage, in which you described pre-cum was present. In this event, you described the pre-cum had possibly come into contact with your urethra. 

From the information given, this scenario is determined to be of Negligible Risk (There is no evidence or no documented cases of transmission. However, there is a theoretical possibility of transmission under certain extenuating circumstances). 

Contact between your penis and your partner's penis, with pre-cum exposure to the urethra, provides a potential risk for HIV transmission. However, there has not been a reported case of transmission. The risk involved in this activity is due to the potential for a few of the requirements of our HIV Transmission Equation being met. In order for HIV transmission to occur, there must be the presence of HIV positive fluid (semen, pre-cum, vaginal fluid, anal fluid, breast milk, blood), with direct access to the bloodstream, through a High, Low, or Negligible Risk activity

The scenario above fulfills two out of three of the components of our HIV Transmission Equation (see below). For Negligible Risk activities, we at the AIDS Vancouver Online Helpline recommend that you refer to a healthcare provider for more personalized answers. We do recommend that anybody who is questioning their HIV status gets tested immediately.

As you have noted, you have received testing previously for this activity. In order to ensure completely conclusive results, we would further recommend that you receive confirmative testing 12 weeks following the initial exposure. 

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