jim25855
Hi,

6 weeks ago I visited the strip club and got few lap dances.

Because my pines was erect and lap dances were aggressive,
my pines was exposed outside of the underwear during the lap dances.

During the aggressive lap dances the jeans zipper was opened.
The exposed pines was rubbed with the opened jeans zipper during lap dances.
It caused multiple scratches on pines.
The scratches on pines were not bleeding,
but they left some scratch marks on the pines which could be clearly seen on the pines.

After the lap dances were over,
I went with one of the strippers to the private room.
The stripper gave me unprotected handjob without condom for 2 minute and than
she gave me unprotected blowjob without condom for another 2 minute and
than we had another unprotected handjob for 1 minute afterwhich I finished.
All these sexual activities were done after lap dances with the presence of the scratches on pines from open zipper.

I have two questions regarding HIV risks from these 2 sexaul activities:

1. The stripper had some vaginal fluid
on her hands during handjob.
This is because she fingered herself
just before the handjob.
My question is if getting the
unprotected handjob without condom
for 2 minute put me in HIV
risk because there was a contact
between the multiple scratches on pines
from open zipper and
vaginal fluid on the stripper's
hands?

2. My second question is if getting the
unprotected blowjob without condom
for 2 minute put me in HIV risk
because of possible contact
between the multiple scratches on
pines from open zipper and
possible blood/wound in the
stripper's mouth?

I would appreciate your answers and medical explanations for my two questions.

Thanks in advance,

Jim
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helpline-volunteer
Hi there, 

Thank you for your inquiry. From what we gather from the question, you were asking about the possibility of HIV transmission from receiving a hand-job with the presence of vaginal fluid, as well as receiving oral sex without protection. 

From the information given, this scenario is determined to be Negligible Risk: (There is no evidence or no documented cases of transmission. However, there is a theoretical possibility of transmission under certain extenuating circumstances).

This scenario is determined to be of Negligible Risk due to the theoretical possibility that the act of unprotected receptive oral sex may provide an opportunity for HIV transmission.

For the transmission of HIV to successfully occur, three elements of the Transmission Equation (see below) must be fulfilled. In this case, there must be the presence of HIV positive fluid (semen, pre-cum, vaginal fluid, anal fluid, blood, or breast milk), with direct access to the bloodstream, through a High, Low, or Negligible Risk activity.

To date, there has never been a reported case of partner to partner transmission through the act of oral sex. However, this is theoretically possible due to, as you have described, "multiple scratches on the penis from an open zipper" with "possible blood or wound" in the mouth of your partner.
In this scenario, you describe the presence of possible HIV positive fluid (from the mouth of your partner), which had an opportunity for direct access to the bloodstream through scratches on the penis from a zipper. 

Theoretically, transmission, in this case, would be possible. Yet, the conditions you have described do not appear to present a notable opportunity for transmission to occur. From our understanding, HIV transmission would likely only occur in this situation if there was to be a substantially deep and actively bleeding wound on your penis, coupled with active bleeding wounds in your partner's mouth. In this circumstance, the requirements of HIV transmission would be fulfilled. 

Again, this does not appear to be the case in the scenario you have described above. 

For clarity, below is our HIV Transmission Equation: 

Helpline Transmission Equation .jpg
Recommendation: There is no evidence or no documented cases of transmission. Refer to a healthcare professional for more personalized answers.

All the best, 

AIDS Vancouver Online/Helpline, Cody 

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